tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3498725671447004370.post864372930392716855..comments2023-10-26T07:19:41.446-05:00Comments on Science Avenger: Ben Stein's Dishonest Film Exposes Dinesh D'Souza's Naivete and IgnoranceScienceAvengerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00855046387193200080noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3498725671447004370.post-44796271761266590972008-04-27T10:13:00.000-05:002008-04-27T10:13:00.000-05:00Luke: I quantify faith roughly as the number of a...Luke: I quantify faith roughly as the number of assumptions made that are unsupported by evidence, and the extent to which they go beyond that standard. It is an inexact process for sure.<BR/><BR/>CL: My comment is a recognition that it is the only solution we have, and it matches fairly well with the time we know passed from earth's beginnings to life's beginnings. It is a reasonable hypothesis, a starting point.<BR/><BR/>What science lacks is a full-fledged theory of abiogensis, which is why the experiments you request don't exist in great number, if at all. But such is not required to make the claim I did.ScienceAvengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00855046387193200080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3498725671447004370.post-5572811650167113742008-04-27T09:42:00.000-05:002008-04-27T09:42:00.000-05:00Hi Avenger.You introduced yourself to me over on t...Hi Avenger.<BR/><BR/>You introduced yourself to me over on the EvolutionBlog with some pretty heavy comments, so I thought I'd give your blog a read. Pretty good stuff, honestly. I dig your exegesis and share more than one of your sentiments. However, this caught my attention as possibly way out of line with the current scientific consensus, and certainly way out of line with what you yourself write earlier in this same post.<BR/><BR/>Quoting Stein, you write, "Is it reasonable to posit that a chance combination of atoms and molecules, under those conditions, somehow generated a living thing?" You then conclude with no explanation, "Of course it is..."<BR/><BR/>This is problematic for me because earlier in this same post you correctly note that science has no reasonable hypothesis of abiogenesis. If science proposes no reasonable explanation for the organization of inorganic matter into the first replicating cell, from whence do you?<BR/><BR/>Pre-emptively, I'm not being a smart-ass troll or trying to dupe you into another needless flame war; I'm sincerely confused by what I perceive as a sloppy argument from a decent writer.<BR/><BR/>Can you or anyone else point me to a valid experiment that supports your claim? And to elaborate, what conditions was Stein alluding to?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3498725671447004370.post-67326642130477659372008-04-24T00:03:00.000-05:002008-04-24T00:03:00.000-05:00"But doesn't it take as much, or more, faith...?"I...<I>"But doesn't it take as much, or more, faith...?"</I><BR/><BR/>I hear that one all the time from talk-radio listeners. How, exactly, does one quantify faith?Luke H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17526959547500069166noreply@blogger.com