tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3498725671447004370.post8053310636974619555..comments2023-10-26T07:19:41.446-05:00Comments on Science Avenger: Don't Quote Darwin to Me, or Isaac Newton either, Jeff JacobyScienceAvengerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00855046387193200080noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3498725671447004370.post-59863481414276072102007-07-26T22:52:00.000-05:002007-07-26T22:52:00.000-05:00There are so many flaws there I don't know where t...There are so many flaws there I don't know where to start. First off, it's not a predjudice when you can see evidence of religious interference with science rather easily. The position may be wrong (I think it is), but it can't be accurately described as a predjudice.<BR/><BR/>Second, what's the evidence that this is a uniquely 21st century position? Atheism might be making slow but sure social gains, but the idea that the gods don't help much in the lab is hardly news.<BR/><BR/>Third, I don't think many of us unapologetic atheists think religion invariably distorts science. Ken Miller is disproof enough of that. It'd be more accurate to say it gets in the way of science, and thus has the potential to distort science, so it is best discarded.<BR/><BR/>Fourth, again, no fact about Newton is going to be relevant to what effect religion has on science now, so no, the position has not been refuted. I happen to not buy it, but to say it has been refutedis overstating the matter considerably.ScienceAvengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00855046387193200080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3498725671447004370.post-76805868038083641132007-07-26T17:45:00.000-05:002007-07-26T17:45:00.000-05:00I'm curious as to where Jacoby got this assertion:...I'm curious as to where Jacoby got this assertion:<BR/><I>The 21st-century prejudice that religion invariably "subverts science" is refuted</I><BR/>Is that really the case? I know a few people say that "believers" can't be good scientists, but that's nowhere near being a mainstream position. Sure, the creationists do their best to "subvert science" - but the issue there is one of dishonesty, not religion (again, the assertion that religion spawns dishonesty isn't a mainstream position).<BR/><BR/>Sounds like a classic straw man to me.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010178962574928062noreply@blogger.com